Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware


Remarkably Painless Clean Install of Windows 11
on both my incompatible platforms. ​

I have to say I'm utterly surprised how easy this was!

Desktop - Windows Pro ( System 1 ):

o Failed the most recent Health Check because it had no TPM at all.
o Failed the most recent Health Check because it's CPU wasn't on the guest list.

Using a MCT usb of 22000.194 I used the simple instructions found here:

Windows 11 TPM Requirement? Bypass it in 5 Minutes | TechPowerUp

I had an internet connection the entire time.

My only extra clean install effort was at this point when I got the message:

This PC can't run Windows 11

Whereupon I simply shelled out to an Admin cmd prompt and ran this regedit file as suggested by the above link:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig] "BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassStorageCheck"=dword:00000001 "BypassCPUCheck"=dword:00000001


That was it!!!

Laptop - Windows Home ( System 2 )

o Failed the most recent Health Check because it's CPU wasn't on the guest list.

And yet I got absolutely NO error messages at all on this one - a pleasant surprise.

AND
​
I was able to install with a Local Account using the fake@fake.com headfake found here at step 21. ( Thanks @Brink )



Summation:
While my normal workflow had taken a big hit at first ( i.e. Context and Start Menus), once I found where things were, I'm seeing more and more advantages to it all

This was a by far less scary experience than I'd earlier imagined. Maybe with a clean install it's easier, I couldn't say.

Of course tomorrow's CU will be an interesting milestone on this adventure, and yet I have every bit of faith in our amazing members to find a way of helping us keep old hardware alive and feeling young!
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 22H2 19045.2965
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8500
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-3450 CPU@ 3.10GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GT 640
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home 64bit 22H2 22621.1702
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 5559
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-6200U CPU@ 2.40GHz
    Memory
    8.00GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows
SIW2 said:
Does your laptop have tpm1.2 ?

You might be able to upgrade it. Some of the hp machines can. Maybe can be also done on Dells that are not too old.

HP Desktops, Notebooks, and Workstations - HP TPM Configuration Utility With Windows 10 Anniversary Edition Compatible TPM Firmware | HP® Customer Support

Upgrade or convert TPM firmware to 1.2 or 2.0 by using the steps in this document.
support.hp.com support.hp.com
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Laptop has 2.0
Superfly said:
Why bother? - MS hack works with TPM 1.2.
Click to expand...

This registry hack I used with several different KEY values than MS provided worked with NO TPM on the Desktop PRO. Oddly I never had to delete this file:

C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\appraiserres.dll
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 22H2 19045.2965
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8500
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-3450 CPU@ 3.10GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GT 640
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home 64bit 22H2 22621.1702
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 5559
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-6200U CPU@ 2.40GHz
    Memory
    8.00GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
Ok...was bit by the bug. I decided to use my old Dell XPS 13 9350 w/ i7-6600U and followed the method of running the Windows 11 Setup, deleting appraiserres.dll and selecting not to immediately get updates, and it installed without error. I was able to use Windows Update after install...but we'll see if that continues. Otherwise, I did do a backup image with Windows 10. Admittedly, I agree with some articles I read that Windows 11 isn't that noticable an updgrade from Windows 10...in fact, it seems to reduce the amount of personalization that Windows 10 had. I'm sure I'll get used to it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
If I visit my parent's house I will attempt to upgrade an even older Vista era Acer laptop (see my specs) from Windows 11 Pro Insider's Preview to the latest release (RTM) by deleting the file and let you know. Usual updates install without any complain. Only upgrading to a higher build isn't possible from Windows Update.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
One of my pcs is a 4770K on a MSI B85M-E45 mobo - a too old cpu, no TPM or secure boot. I tried all the various hacks to upgrade to Windows 11 to no avail.

As an experiment, I deleted the hidden folder C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\ (probably there from previous upgrade attempts) and also appraiserres.dll from my Windows 11 MCT install USB.

Then I ran setup.exe from the USB (aka repair install) and the pc upgraded to Windows 11 with no problems. I've had a few updates since and it seems OK.

I made a Macrium Windows 10 full image before I did the above, just in case MS starts playing silly beggars on update Tuesdays.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 3700X
    Motherboard
    Rog Strix X570-F
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1650
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 * 27"
    Screen Resolution
    3 * 1080p
    Hard Drives
    EVO 860 1TB
    3 * Seagate 4TB
    PSU
    EVGA 550W
mccnavy said:
Ok...was bit by the bug. I decided to use my old Dell XPS 13 9350 w/ i7-6600U and followed the method of running the Windows 11 Setup, deleting appraiserres.dll and selecting not to immediately get updates, and it installed without error. I was able to use Windows Update after install...but we'll see if that continues. Otherwise, I did do a backup image with Windows 10. Admittedly, I agree with some articles I read that Windows 11 isn't that noticable an updgrade from Windows 10...in fact, it seems to reduce the amount of personalization that Windows 10 had. I'm sure I'll get used to it.
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After I was upgraded to Windows 11 version 21H2 by installing a Windows Insider upgrade from MS, I tried to restore a Macrium created Windows 10 image. The Windows 11 OS did not allow that. In case you are able to restore the image in the normal manner then please tell me how.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home Version 22H2 (10.0.22623.746)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    American Megatrends Inc./VivoBook_ASUSLaptop X510QA_X510QA
    CPU
    AMD A12-9720P RADEON R7, 12 COMPUTE CORES 4C+8G
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X510QA
    Memory
    7632 MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon R7 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Speakers Synaptics Smart-Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1x; Generic PnP Monitor
    Hard Drives
    SSD 500GB (Partitions, OS C:\- 146GB | Backup D\- 330GB)
    2 SSDs 250G and 1 SSD 1T Removable Drives
    Cooling
    Not Available
    Mouse
    2 Button Wheel Mouse Present
    Internet Speed
    40 Mbps
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
SIW2 said:
Does your laptop have tpm1.2 ?

You might be able to upgrade it. Some of the hp machines can. Maybe can be also done on Dells that are not too old.

HP Desktops, Notebooks, and Workstations - HP TPM Configuration Utility With Windows 10 Anniversary Edition Compatible TPM Firmware | HP® Customer Support

Upgrade or convert TPM firmware to 1.2 or 2.0 by using the steps in this document.
support.hp.com support.hp.com
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Hi,
MS lowered requirements to tpm 1.2 and is allowing more cpu's if they have at least tpm 1.2 also

Ways to install Windows 11

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
ThrashZone said:
Hi,
MS lowered requirements to tpm 1.2 and is allowing more cpu's if they have at least tpm 1.2 also

Ways to install Windows 11
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Where is this written in black and white by MS? All I can still find is minimum Zen 2 or Intel 8th gen CPU and TPM 2.0, which was updated on August 27th.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
junglee said:
After I was upgraded to Windows 11 version 21H2 by installing a Windows Insider upgrade from MS, I tried to restore a Macrium created Windows 10 image. The Windows 11 OS did not allow that. In case you are able to restore the image in the normal manner then please tell me how.
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I've reverted back to Windows 10 a few times when experimenting with the leaked Windows 11 a while back. I just booted from the USB rescue media that you make with Macrium Reflect and pointed it at the saved image I had on a different HDD to the OS. Macrium doesn't seem to care what's on the HD - it just overwrites.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 3700X
    Motherboard
    Rog Strix X570-F
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1650
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster Z
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 * 27"
    Screen Resolution
    3 * 1080p
    Hard Drives
    EVO 860 1TB
    3 * Seagate 4TB
    PSU
    EVGA 550W

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Hi,
Yeah forum hiding links as text only lol

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
I do not have TPM at all, so I will keep using the hacks. Thank you for sharing. By the way, has anyone compared performance of Windows 11 to Windows 10? Is it the same? Is it better? What applications or games you are using? I'm trying to see if it is worth installing, apart from the experience, of course.

PS: In dxdiag I noticed a new graphics feature, called DirectX 12 Ultimate, which of course is disabled in my old GPU. How is that enabled? Is done by installing a modern fast GPU, or there is any other setting?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 64-bit (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v23H2 (build 22631.3374)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
spapakons said:
I do not have TPM at all, so I will keep using the hacks. Thank you for sharing. By the way, has anyone compared performance of Windows 11 to Windows 10? Is it the same? Is it better? I'm trying to see if it is worth installing, apart from the experience, of course.
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Hi,
Everyone say 11 is faster overuse of the term snappy lol
Frankly I see no difference so far I have not ran any benchmarks atm
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
Bree said:
In the link Thrashzone gave you:
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ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah forum hiding links as text only lol

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e
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This guide does not mean MS has lowered any minimum system requirements. This is just a guide how to get around them. MS even says that it is not recommended to do this workaround unless specifically instructed to do so by MS themselves. Non of these workarounds are stuff that MS endorse or support. you do everything at your own risk.

These are minimum system requirements so far: Windows 11 Specs and System Requirements | Microsoft
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.3296(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
SlicEnDicE said:
This guide does not mean MS has lowered any minimum system requirements. This is just a guide how to get around them. MS even says that it is not recommended to do this workaround unless specifically instructed to do so by MS themselves. Non of these workarounds are stuff that MS endorse or support. you do everything at your own risk.

These are minimum system requirements so far: Windows 11 Specs and System Requirements | Microsoft
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One more link to verify the requirements for 11 and TPM 2 is still required.
www.microsoft.com

Windows 11 Specs and System Requirements | Microsoft

Find an overview of Windows 11 specs and features from Microsoft. Learn about the device specifications, versions and languages available for Windows 11
www.microsoft.com

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
SlicEnDicE said:
This guide does not mean MS has lowered any minimum system requirements. This is just a guide how to get around them. MS even says that it is not recommended to do this workaround unless specifically instructed to do so by MS themselves. Non of these workarounds are stuff that MS endorse or support. you do everything at your own risk.

These are minimum system requirements so far: Windows 11 Specs and System Requirements | Microsoft
Click to expand...
Hi,
If that little warning turns you off not sure what to say besides it clearly state tpm 1.2 is a new minimum warning or not besides the warning is more because the cpu is still not listed as compatible not because tpm 1.2 is an issue
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-7-10-11Pro's
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 17" Nitro 7840sn/ 2x16gb 5600c40/ 4060/ stock 1tb-os/ 4tb sn850x
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    2-WD-sn850x 4tb/ 970evo+500gb/ 980 pro 2tb.
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro
ThrashZone said:
Hi,
If that little warning turns you off not sure what to say besides it clearly state tpm 1.2 is a new minimum warning or not besides the warning is more because the cpu is still not listed as compatible not because tpm 1.2 is an issue
Click to expand...
Odd.. but it doesn't. MS has supplied a work around but the strongly recoment not doing it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Beta) - 23H2 - 22635.3566
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600- G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32", 28" ASUS VP28U
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
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