Why Windows 11 is a Big Deal to Me

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I responded to a post that Kari made a short time ago where he expressed some enthusiasm regarding Windows 11. In my response I noted that I too was enthusiastic about Windows 11 even if a lot of the changes were small subtle things.

Since making that post I've been thinking about this a lot more. It brought to mind something that a member of the media recently said. Bear in mind, this individual is someone who covers Microsoft for a living. He basically asserted that no one really cares what the underlying operating system is, and that the operating system is just there to facilitate the apps that a user wants to run to accomplish their daily tasks.

That statement has been grating on me for a while.

However, it was the previously mentioned posting here on ElevenForum that drove this point home to me:

Windows itself IS the app that drives my productivity. In a very real way, Windows itself is why I enjoy computing so much.

Back in the old days (think DOS), I can understand that the OS was really pretty much something that facilitated the ability to run and manage your apps and handle the file system for you and the apps. The OS itself was not something you might spend a whole lot of time using.

But that has changed.

Today, many of us run many applications at once. We need sophisticated yet simple ways to manage all those applications and switch between them. The simple keyboard shortcuts and mouse clicks we use are all handled by Windows. We rely upon security protections provided by the OS, the ability to network locally and over the Internet, if you have Windows Pro or higher you likely use tools such as Remote Desktop, Hyper-V, etc. If we are working with someone else, we might guide them to use simple bundled tools like notepad to perform simple tasks because we know that whatever their choice of apps, this is a tool every Windows user will have on their system. We might provide a user a document in PDF format because we know that the capability to read that document is baked right into the OS.

Also, so many of the facilities that apps make use of are functions built into the OS. WYSIWYG is a huge example of this. Imagine if everyone implemented this differently and it wasn't a core part of the OS?

If you think about it, the sheer amount of capability built right into the OS is amazing. I've spent a couple years alone just playing with and learning as much as I can about automating Windows installation and managing and updating Windows images. But there are so many other avenues that one could explore: PowerShell scripting, Networking, storage management, encryption - and the list goes on.

I'm pretty sure that I can safely say that for a lot of us geeks, Windows itself IS THE APP that we are most interested in. It's not Word, or Adobe Acrobat, or Macrium Reflect - Windows itself is where we spend most of our time.

After all, when I look at what the true gurus like Kari, Brink, and so many others are putting their efforts into, it is Windows. Granted, you would expect that on TenForums and ElevenForum, but I'd be willing to bet that a lot more research goes into delving deep into Windows than how to make a better looking Word document :).

But maybe that's part of the magic of Windows; for those people who really don't care about the OS, it just goes about managing things for you that you don't even think about, letting you use those apps most important to you to complete the work that you need to get done.

I sit in front of and interact with a computer for many hours. Every day. So for me, seeing changes that will improve security, enhance how Windows interacts with and manages other apps, and generally makes my work more enjoyable, that's a pretty big deal.

I'd be willing to bet that a lot of you who have joined ElevenForum already feel the same way.
 

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Since making that post I've been thinking about this a lot more. It brought to mind something that a member of the media recently said. Bear in mind, this individual is someone who covers Microsoft for a living. He basically asserted that no one really cares what the underlying operating system is, and that the operating system is just there to facilitate the apps that a user wants to run to accomplish their daily tasks.

I fully agree with that. Windows is not an "app". To be honest, I'm very old-fashioned, I don't like the word "app". To me, it's not even a word, it's a shortcut from "application" and that's what's typically developed for phones. On a desktop I use programs. Yes, strictly speaking Windows is a computer program, any OS is. However, the purpose of this program is to facilitate other programs.

In the early days, DOS was the OS and Windows was the GUI. At some point, the distinction disappeared, since Microsoft merged these two programs (OS and GUI) into one, that we now know as Windows. Moreover, there is a tendency (has been for a long time already) to grow computer programs into all-in-one suites. This way Windows comes with its own means to create and edit texts (Notepad and Wordpad), make basic operations with images (Paint), access the internet (before - Internet Explorer, now - Edge), etc. Now Windows can "natively" open zip archives, exhibit pdf files, and so on.

As far as I am concerned, none of these additional features are an integral part of the OS. In fact, the EU has proved just that by forcing Microsoft to provide the "N" versions of Windows, which are stripped of media related programs (Media Player, Skype, etc.). In the past there was also an "E" version of Windows 7 which came without Internet Explorer. In both cases the OS is the same and works just fine.

Now, many "real" computer programs - I personally use Mathematica a lot, just as one example - are available for more than one OS (in practice, Windows, Mac, Linux). While the implementations might differ a little bit, but in theory they should provide same functionality (although iTunes for Windows is really bad, as is Office for Mac). So productivity-wise, the OS is indeed irrelevant. We typically stick with one OS either as a personal preference or workplace requirement, but as far as real work is concerned, the choice of the OS is not important at all.
 

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I responded to a post that Kari made a short time ago where he expressed some enthusiasm regarding Windows 11. In my response I noted that I too was enthusiastic about Windows 11 even if a lot of the changes were small subtle things.

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I'd be willing to bet that a lot of you who have joined ElevenForum already feel the same way.

I tend to agree with you on this, in particular if you look at how Microsoft, Apple, Canonical, and other OS vendors look at the OS as a whole. The OS is so much more than it used to be 30 years ago, hence the emphasis on usability, customizability (somewhat, in some cases, sure, but Windows 10 offers a native Dark mode - something I honestly would never happen directly from an OS vendor, ever. The emphasis has shifted from just being the base to being a usable, set of apps that the customer may (or may not) like (I'm looking at you directly, Cortana!) in order to enhance the user experience when interacting with the OS itself - not apps that you alter install, but apps themselves. It's also why Microsoft continues to bundle crap apps that I never use (Angry Birds? Really?) and apps that I still prefer 3rd party replacements for (IrfanView, WACUP, Xplorer², numerous others). But if the user was not the focus in their OS development, Windows, MacOS and many, many distros of Linux would not be focusing so much on the entire native GUI in each respective OS to begin with.
 

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I fully agree with that. Windows is not an "app". To be honest, I'm very old-fashioned, I don't like the word "app". To me, it's not even a word, it's a shortcut from "application" and that's what's typically developed for phones. On a desktop I use programs. Yes, strictly speaking Windows is a computer program, any OS is. However, the purpose of this program is to facilitate other programs.

In the early days, DOS was the OS and Windows was the GUI. At some point, the distinction disappeared, since Microsoft merged these two programs (OS and GUI) into one, that we now know as Windows. Moreover, there is a tendency (has been for a long time already) to grow computer programs into all-in-one suites. This way Windows comes with its own means to create and edit texts (Notepad and Wordpad), make basic operations with images (Paint), access the internet (before - Internet Explorer, now - Edge), etc. Now Windows can "natively" open zip archives, exhibit pdf files, and so on.

As far as I am concerned, none of these additional features are an integral part of the OS. In fact, the EU has proved just that by forcing Microsoft to provide the "N" versions of Windows, which are stripped of media related programs (Media Player, Skype, etc.). In the past there was also an "E" version of Windows 7 which came without Internet Explorer. In both cases the OS is the same and works just fine.

Now, many "real" computer programs - I personally use Mathematica a lot, just as one example - are available for more than one OS (in practice, Windows, Mac, Linux). While the implementations might differ a little bit, but in theory they should provide same functionality (although iTunes for Windows is really bad, as is Office for Mac). So productivity-wise, the OS is indeed irrelevant. We typically stick with one OS either as a personal preference or workplace requirement, but as far as real work is concerned, the choice of the OS is not important at all.
I get it. How one interacts with the environment is completely unimportant to some. The underlying functionality provided by the OS that even makes a lot of the features found in apps, or programs if you prefer, is completely unimportant to many. Just saying that for some of us, the OS that underpins everything is the most important piece, as if it itself was that killer app that makes us use a computer, even though, obviously, the OS is not an app itself.

It's kind of like back in the early PC days. There was often that one single app that was the only reason people owned a computer. For example, we had computers for the sole purpose of running Lotus 1, 2, 3. That was the killer app the made having a computer necessary. For others, it was something else.

For me personally, Windows itself is my driving motivation for having a computer. I want to develop expertise in as many of the core components as possible. Other stuff - Office, video editing apps, etc. are important as well, but Windows is that thing that keeps me glued to the keyboard and mouse.
 

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To give you an example, I was once asked to format 20 floppies in DOS which as you can imagine took a long time back then on slow hardware. But the important thing was that you couldn't do anything else at all. You either had to wait it out or do something else away from the computer. Now with Windows of course you could format those floppies while doing something else.
 

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Two things that annoy me intensely, calling programs apps and refering to a PC as a device, my PCs are not flipping phones and I don't think they will fit in my pocket!
 

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To give you an example, I was once asked to format 20 floppies in DOS which as you can imagine took a long time back then on slow hardware. But the important thing was that you couldn't do anything else at all. You either had to wait it out or do something else away from the computer. Now with Windows of course you could format those floppies while doing something else.
Possible if you had 20 floppy drives on your system, leaving you 6 more drive letters to do whatever else you needed, but otherwise, you would be swapping the disks in and out as fast as Windows could process them, which is precisely as fast as the drives could format and check each of the disks in turn. Floppies were a slow technology, much slower than the systems running DOS that you used way back then. The hardware was not the bottleneck, the floppy drives were.
 

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Many interesting words, but I'm still sitting here, after reading all that, with my original question......
Why would I or any PC user want or need Windows 11?

TM :cool:
 

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Indeed they were.
 

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Many interesting words, but I'm still sitting here, after reading all that, with my original question......
Why would I or any PC user want or need Windows 11?

TM :cool:
Need? I doubt anyone needs it given 10 will be around for 4 more years. It's a want more than a need. I want the new GUI and interface also it's going to be the OS that's going to be receiving the greatest development effort by MS.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 22000.258
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
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    Banna Junior 6K - E Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryze 3 3200G
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime B350M-E
    Memory
    Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2666 MHz DDR4 - 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB
    Sound Card
    On motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32" Curved, ViewSonic 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080P
    Hard Drives
    Primary Samsung 256 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    NZXT 510
    Cooling
    Stock AMD cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 240.78 mbps Upload: 12.02 mbps Ping: 15ms
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    Firefox and Edge
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    Defender

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I get it. How one interacts with the environment is completely unimportant to some. The underlying functionality provided by the OS that even makes a lot of the features found in apps, or programs if you prefer, is completely unimportant to many. Just saying that for some of us, the OS that underpins everything is the most important piece, as if it itself was that killer app that makes us use a computer, even though, obviously, the OS is not an app itself.

It's kind of like back in the early PC days. There was often that one single app that was the only reason people owned a computer. For example, we had computers for the sole purpose of running Lotus 1, 2, 3. That was the killer app the made having a computer necessary. For others, it was something else.

For me personally, Windows itself is my driving motivation for having a computer. I want to develop expertise in as many of the core components as possible. Other stuff - Office, video editing apps, etc. are important as well, but Windows is that thing that keeps me glued to the keyboard and mouse.
I'd agree with you that Windows is akin to glue. It connects the user to the process that they want to perform, and over its evolution has held people like me, who used DOS on PCs years before Windows existed, to use the same family of machines, in many ways for exactly the same things we did way back then. Of course our use evolved to newer ways of doing things with greater flexibility, expanding our abilities to network, interconnect, and speed up data and communications. Other users use a different type of glue, MacOS, Linux, Android etc. I will stick with Windows out of preference!
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11, update 21H2 29/06/2021 10.0.22000.51
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple iMac9,1
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo E8435 @ 3.06GHz
    Motherboard
    Apple Inc. Mac-F2218FA9
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GForce GT 130
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Imac 2009 23"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD1001FALS-40K1B0 SATA 1TB
    PSU
    Apple
    Case
    Aluminium (or is it Aluminum?)
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    USB UK extended generic
    Mouse
    Novatech USB wheel optical mouse
    Internet Speed
    51.4 down 16.7 up ethernet
    Browser
    Chrome
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    MS Defender
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    obtained secondhand from CEX 2018 £140

jbcarreon123

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Hi, what I hated about 11 is the compability. Here in my country, PC parts is tend to more expensive than flagship phones, and I hated it!

And, we on an pandemic.. And in issues on graphics cards because of bitcoin mining.. As I couldn't find a better graphics card because it is expensive, even second hands and older ones.

But, there's an working workaround for installing W11 in an bearbones hardware. Great!
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 10, Windows 10 Ghost Spectre, Windows 11 (multi-boot)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 270s
    CPU
    Core i3 2100 3.2Ghz
    Memory
    4gb DDR3-1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Compaq LA2006x
    Screen Resolution
    900p
    Internet Speed
    10MBit/s
    Browser
    Chrome, FFox and my homemade browser IE11-based
    Antivirus
    WD
    Other Info
    Second-hand PC,
    No TPM, having WDDM 1.2, unsupported CPU.
    Installed Windows 11 using the registry hack..
    Clean installed even Windows 10

badrobot

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If not for Windows 11, I will just keep putting off upgrading my 7 year old PC. :ROFLMAO:
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10/11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG Strix
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna

BunnyJ

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If not for Windows 11, I will just keep putting off upgrading my 7 year old PC. :ROFLMAO:
Same here.,. I had to find a reason to get some new bits and here it is
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home 22000.258
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banna Junior 6K - E Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryze 3 3200G
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime B350M-E
    Memory
    Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2666 MHz DDR4 - 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB
    Sound Card
    On motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32" Curved, ViewSonic 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080P
    Hard Drives
    Primary Samsung 256 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    NZXT 510
    Cooling
    Stock AMD cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 240.78 mbps Upload: 12.02 mbps Ping: 15ms
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    Firefox and Edge
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badrobot

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Many interesting words, but I'm still sitting here, after reading all that, with my original question......
Why would I or any PC user want or need Windows 11?

TM :cool:
Anyone can skip it. But 11 makes a lot of people excited with hardware upgrades.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10/11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG Strix
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
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    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
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    1Gbps
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    Chrome
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    Moderna

hsehestedt

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Why would I or any PC user want or need Windows 11?
For many people, there may be no reason to switch whatsoever. However, for a lot of power users who are really familar with Windows and make use of a large number of the OS features, these can make a big difference.

Here are a few of the things that I particularly like:

I like the easy access to various split screen configurations. I use this feature from PowerToys constantly, but the way it is integrated into 11 is far simpler. I probably use this a hundred times a day so it's a big time saver for me.

I spend a lot of time in Settings while I test and research things that make me go there frequently. The new settings layout is FAR simpler to navigate.

I am an android user. Being able to use Android apps on my desktop will be a huge advantage to me.

Of course there is more, but this simply illustrates a few of the things that I would use extremely frequently.
 

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System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 15-BL012DX
    CPU
    Intel i7-7500U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Dual Intel HD 620 and Nvidia GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Built-in Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k 15-inch
    Screen Resolution
    4k (3840 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    RAM Upgraded from 16GB to 32GB WiFi Upgraded from WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 SSD upgraded from 512GB NVMe SSD to 1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD

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To give you an example, I was once asked to format 20 floppies in DOS which as you can imagine took a long time back then on slow hardware. But the important thing was that you couldn't do anything else at all. You either had to wait it out or do something else away from the computer. Now with Windows of course you could format those floppies while doing something else.

Well, that would be both hardware and software. No matter how much your OS can multi-task, if your hardware is lacking, then you are stuck.

If you ran DOS on a modern machine, and were able to open multiple shells, do you think you could format more than one floppy simultaneously? It's something to consider.

Two things that annoy me intensely, calling programs apps and refering to a PC as a device, my PCs are not flipping phones and I don't think they will fit in my pocket!

App is short for application. Which ALL programs are.

Similarly, PCs are only one type of Personal Computing Device, shortened to devices. Because, in case you missed it, Windows 11 is being developed for more than just 'PCs'.

Possible if you had 20 floppy drives on your system, leaving you 6 more drive letters to do whatever else you needed, but otherwise, you would be swapping the disks in and out as fast as Windows could process them, which is precisely as fast as the drives could format and check each of the disks in turn. Floppies were a slow technology, much slower than the systems running DOS that you used way back then. The hardware was not the bottleneck, the floppy drives were.

Well, no, but even my original Tandy 1000 EX had dual floppies - but I could only format one at a time because of the limits of the OS and the hardware. With modern hardware and the ability to open multiple shells, I could format diskettes in both drives simultaneously. Still twice as fast compared to one at a time.

Many interesting words, but I'm still sitting here, after reading all that, with my original question......
Why would I or any PC user want or need Windows 11?

TM :cool:

Why? Because of improvements. Some like aesthetically pleasing improvements, some like back-end improvements, some like new capabilities (like Secure Boot and TPM), and some don't like change at all (and continue to use XP, to boot)....

It's a matter of personal choice.

I'd agree with you that Windows is akin to glue. It connects the user to the process that they want to perform, and over its evolution has held people like me, who used DOS on PCs years before Windows existed, to use the same family of machines, in many ways for exactly the same things we did way back then. Of course our use evolved to newer ways of doing things with greater flexibility, expanding our abilities to network, interconnect, and speed up data and communications. Other users use a different type of glue, MacOS, Linux, Android etc. I will stick with Windows out of preference!

Spot on. I'd much rather be in a shell, but watching a streaming video isn't exactly easy in a shell environment.

I use multiple types of your glue - Android, MacOS, Linux, and Windows (no iOS though). I stick with Windows on my PCs because MacOS is not licensed for home built PCs and I refuse to buy a pre-built device if I can help it (smartphones being a notable exception, of course).

Hi, what I hated about 11 is the compability. Here in my country, PC parts is tend to more expensive than flagship phones, and I hated it!

And, we on an pandemic.. And in issues on graphics cards because of bitcoin mining.. As I couldn't find a better graphics card because it is expensive, even second hands and older ones.

But, there's an working workaround for installing W11 in an bearbones hardware. Great!

Unfortunately, people who continue to use older hardware and use unpatched OSs and apps and don't learn enough on how ot protect their PCs all over the world - regardless of rich or poor, developed or developing countries, East or West, North or South - keep allowing criminal cartels to mass disseminate malware to the world. I understand that old PCs are sometimes the only way to go - I have old desktops builds going back to ...2008, and old laptops going back almost as far as well.

But I also know when to give up on using Windows (and especially unpatched Windows) OSs on old hardware and install something more appropriate for them - Win10. Linux. ChromeOS. And if you take gamers out of hte equation, the vast majority of home users who are not gamers who use Windows at home don't have a majorly pressing need to be running Windows over another OS. Don't need Windows to check get on Facebook, WhatsApp, check email, open websites, or stream videos and / or watch movies.

For many people, there may be no reason to switch whatsoever. However, for a lot of power users who are really familar with Windows and make use of a large number of the OS features, these can make a big difference.

Here are a few of the things that I particularly like:

I like the easy access to various split screen configurations. I use this feature from PowerToys constantly, but the way it is integrated into 11 is far simpler. I probably use this a hundred times a day so it's a big time saver for me.

I spend a lot of time in Settings while I test and research things that make me go there frequently. The new settings layout is FAR simpler to navigate.

I am an android user. Being able to use Android apps on my desktop will be a huge advantage to me.

Of course there is more, but this simply illustrates a few of the things that I would use extremely frequently.

Have to agree that, if it works as intended, being able to use Android apps natively will be a huge bonus. After installing 11, I *finally* connected my Android phone to Windows' YourPhone' app. It's awesome, for what I use it for - watching for notifications on my phone that I might miss because I am watching a video, with a headset on, and not hear my phone notification sound.

it's certainly basic, but it works.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * Corsair Vengeance 32 GB 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2* 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    3x Sabrent Rocket PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 1 TB SSD (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM --> RAID1
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
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    Edge Chromium | Chrome | Firefox Nightly | Brave
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    Defender + MB4

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Well, that would be both hardware and software. No matter how much your OS can multi-task, if your hardware is lacking, then you are stuck.

If you ran DOS on a modern machine, and were able to open multiple shells, do you think you could format more than one floppy simultaneously? It's something to consider.

Indeed it would but at the time that is what we had to put up with.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix x570-E
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), WD MyCloud Mirror 6Tb NAS.
    PSU
    Corsair RM850x
    Case
    Corsair Crystal 680x
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Mk 2 SE Rapid Fire
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Elite
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Astro a50 Headset, Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Tablet.
    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro Insider 64-bit/Manjaro KDE
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus Strix B550-E
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster AE-5
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus Strix XG43VQ 43" Ultrawide
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
    Hard Drives
    Aorus Gen 4 NVMe 1 Tb (Windows Insider), Samsung 850 Pro 512Gb (data), Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb (files), Samsung 860 Evo 2Tb (Manjaro), Blu-ray player
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i
    Case
    Fractal Define R6
    Cooling
    Scythe Mugen 5 rev B and Corsair QL fans
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile Rapidfire
    Internet Speed
    58/12 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
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    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Corsair Virtuoso Headset

johnlgalt

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Lol yes. Formatting 1.2 MB 5.25 disks was always time consuming.....
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * Corsair Vengeance 32 GB 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    eVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-3979-KB)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 * Lenovo LT2323pwA Widescreeen
    Screen Resolution
    2* 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    3x Sabrent Rocket PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 1 TB SSD (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB)
    SanDisk Ultra SDSSDHII-960G-G25 960 GB SATA III SSD
    Crucial MX100 CT256MX100SSD1 256GB SATA III SSD
    2 * Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM --> RAID1
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 x64 Pro build 21H1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryvill 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master (shared) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex
    Browser
    Edge Chromium | Chrome | Firefox Nightly | Brave
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB4

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Lol yes. Formatting 1.2 MB 5.25 disks was always time consuming.....
Installing OS/2 on a PC and hitting disk 13 of 52 and having to start over with disk one.. time consuming
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home 22000.258
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banna Junior 6K - E Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryze 3 3200G
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime B350M-E
    Memory
    Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 2666 MHz DDR4 - 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB
    Sound Card
    On motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viotek 32" Curved, ViewSonic 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080P
    Hard Drives
    Primary Samsung 256 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    NZXT 510
    Cooling
    Stock AMD cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 240.78 mbps Upload: 12.02 mbps Ping: 15ms
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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