Horrible Keyboard Input Language Switch Lag after Win 11 22H2 update


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a few days ago i've finally upgraded to 22H2, i gave them 4 months to make sure that they've fixed all the usual problems, but in the result i've never seen Windows this bad, and i've been using it since Win 97.

The main problem i have right now is that out of a sudden my Input Language Switch hot keys are not working 3 of 5 times (those are the hot keys that you use to switch between languages if you're using a few).

Please watch this short video to see how it goes (or here).

It's important to note that Win+Space works fine for the same purpose without any lagging, but i used to Ctrl+Shift and i want it to work as it did before.

First thing first: This has nothing to do with the physical keyboard, it also doesn't matter which side i'm pressing these keys. it feels like something is interrupting the switch.

What i've tried so far:
Googling for solutions;
Disabled Touch Keyboard Service;
Disabled Win+Space shortcut (that actually somehow helped until i rebooted)
Reassigned input language switch to different keys;
Disabled all the pointless interrupting rubbish in the Accessibility's keyboard settings;
One by one disabled all possible services and background apps.

Nothing helps. I'm desperate because this really interrupts with my work and makes me very angry.

Please any suggestions
 
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To switch languages, you had to install language packs?

Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the packs?

Otherwise, perhaps a key remapping tool that remaps Ctrl + Shift to Win + Space might do the trick for you, allowing you to use your custom keystroke combination to access the one that works perfectly fine with Windows 11 22H2.
 

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Hello and thank you for your reply!

To switch languages, you had to install language packs?
sure, it was installed before the update.

Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the packs?
i did. no difference.

Otherwise, perhaps a key remapping tool that remaps Ctrl + Shift to Win + Space might do the trick for you, allowing you to use your custom keystroke combination to access the one that works perfectly fine with Windows 11 22H2.
yes, because win+space works perfectly, it makes sense to try to assign my original Ctrl+Shift to Win+Space, but unfortunately none of the software i tried can do that with these particular keys:

Actual Window Manager can't assign Win+Space to a hot key combination;

HotkeyP can't pass a remapping to keys combination, or at least it didn't work for me;

SharpKeys doesn't have this functionality.

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it's important to note that Ctrl+Shift actually work if i hold Ctrl first and then press Shift to cycle through the list of languages; still it doesn't work with an instant press, like it used to
 

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Hmmm. You've done good with the testing, and especially to notice that it works if you slow down the input process.

I'm curious - If you go to Mouse Properties from Control Panel, do you have Show location of pointer when I press the CTRL key setting enabled? (Another way to get there is from the Mouse Settings page in Windows Settings, click on the Additional mouse settings near the bottom)
 

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Hmmm. You've done good with the testing, and especially to notice that it works if you slow down the input process.

I'm curious - If you go to Mouse Properties from Control Panel, do you have Show location of pointer when I press the CTRL key setting enabled? (Another way to get there is from the Mouse Settings page in Windows Settings, click on the Additional mouse settings near the bottom)
nope, all that crap is disabled, i'm all for optimization ;-)


Here's a new video showing idiocracy of this situation in more detail.
 

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Hmmm. I thoguht you said Win + Space works fine? The video seems to show it not working fine....
 

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Then it must have been off screen lol - I never saw the pop up on the right.

My bad.

Question - is C+S a normal short cut for it also, or is it something that you had to set up for that manually? I *think* you covered this, but did you rtry removing all custom keystroke settings and let it only use Win + Space, and then reboot and set it to C+S again?
 

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Question - is C+S a normal short cut for it also, or is it something that you had to set up for that manually? I *think* you covered this, but did you rtry removing all custom keystroke settings and let it only use Win + Space, and then reboot and set it to C+S again?
by default it's Shift+Alt for some reason, but i set it to Ctrl+Shift since the beginning of time.

Just tried to leave it Unassigned, restarted, set C+S again = same result :tears:
 

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Hope you had a Merry Christmas!

How about the one key Grave accent setting, does that also induce a lag?
 

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Wait, so setting it to "`" disallows "~"?

Also, are you using any particular 'specialized' keyboard, especially anything that might have hot-key support? I'm guessing no, but I realized I never actually asked to verify....
 

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Wait, so setting it to "`" disallows "~"?
unfortunately you need to hold Shift to type ~ (which is on the same key as ` ) and with Input Language Switch set to `, Shift + ` doesn't give me ~, it just switches the language, which is yet another bug on Microsoft's side.

Also, are you using any particular 'specialized' keyboard, especially anything that might have hot-key support? I'm guessing no, but I realized I never actually asked to verify....
i'm actually using an external keyboard with my laptop, so i have two keyboards and both work the same way with this lag; and of course i tried to disable external keyboard - same thing.
 

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unfortunately you need to hold Shift to type ~ (which is on the same key as ` ) and with Input Language Switch set to `, Shift + ` doesn't give me ~, it just switches the language, which is yet another bug on Microsoft's side.

I'm laughing because this is definitely not supposed to happen. Unreal.

But, maybe a cause for a solution. If I can find the setting I am thinking about.

i'm actually using an external keyboard with my laptop, so i have two keyboards and both work the same way with this lag; and of course i tried to disable external keyboard - same thing.

Makes sense then. Let's see if this might work.

Settings --> Time & Language --> Typing

Do you have text suggestions on, or else multilingual text suggestions on?

Settings --> Time & Language --> Typing --> Advanced keyboard settings

Language list? Different input method of r each app window? Desktop language bar?

Accessibility --> Keyboard --> Filter keys

Ignore quick keystrokes? Ignore unintended keystrokes? Ignore repeated keystrokes?

Each of the last three has a drop down also, which allows you to set a value - mine are all set to 0.0 and all three are off.

Also: Control Panel --> Keyboard Properties

Repeat delay and Repeat rate?
 

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Makes sense then. Let's see if this might work.

Settings --> Time & Language --> Typing

Do you have text suggestions on, or else multilingual text suggestions on?

Settings --> Time & Language --> Typing --> Advanced keyboard settings
that's the thing - all the interrupting crap is disabled

Language list? Different input method of r each app window? Desktop language bar?
tried both. language indication on the taskbar only.

what's interesting though is that Disabling the language bar doesn't hide it from taskbar:

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Accessibility --> Keyboard --> Filter keys
all disabled, i've actually even disabled some service related to that crap.

Ignore quick keystrokes? Ignore unintended keystrokes? Ignore repeated keystrokes?

Each of the last three has a drop down also, which allows you to set a value - mine are all set to 0.0 and all three are off.
seems so familiar but i cannot find those settings, could you please point me to where exactly i can locate them?

Also: Control Panel --> Keyboard Properties

Repeat delay and Repeat rate?
- tried that as well, no effect :(
 

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seems so familiar but i cannot find those settings, could you please point me to where exactly i can locate them?

Settings --> Accessibility --> Keyboard (scroll down to Interaction section) --> Filter keys (it's not just a toggle, but also has hidden settings, just tap on the word Filter)

Each of those Ignore ... also have settings, not just a toggle - tap on each one anywhere but the toggle, and the settings should drop down.
 

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    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Settings --> Accessibility --> Keyboard (scroll down to Interaction section) --> Filter keys (it's not just a toggle, but also has hidden settings, just tap on the word Filter)

Each of those Ignore ... also have settings, not just a toggle - tap on each one anywhere but the toggle, and the settings should drop down.
thank you for the detailed instruction. everything was disabled there, however i played a bit with those settings and none of them affected the problem :tears:
 

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  • OS
    11
Then I think we've reached the point where a bug report to MS via the Feedback app is required. I am all out of ideas.

Unless you want to use UUPDump and build an .ISO of 21H2 build and reinstall, and then keep ignoring 22H2 upgrade in Windows Update.

Heck, both might be worth doing.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 22H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable),Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Then I think we've reached the point where a bug report to MS via the Feedback app is required. I am all out of ideas
seeing their template-replies on the official forum never gave me much expectations, nor i have any beliefs in their support.

Unless you want to use UUPDump and build an .ISO of 21H2 build and reinstall, and then keep ignoring 22H2 upgrade in Windows Update.
i will leave it as the last resort and wait a few more days, maybe somebody else will come up with a solution.

i really appreciate your support and attention to my problem, thank you very much for that (y)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11

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