Solved Norton and Crypto mining.


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I'm glad I'm using Microsoft Defender if this is the way things are going.

 

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Bitdefender is the same apparently
 

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Apparently Avira is doing it also. From what I understand for what you burn in electricity mining it is not even worth it , most times you don't even break even. AV companies take like a 15% cut also.
 

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That is very underhanded of them. Installing somethiing and not being upfront about it.. good thing I just use defender
 

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Apparently Avira is doing it also. From what I understand for what you burn in electricity mining it is not even worth it , most times you don't even break even. AV companies take like a 15% cut also.
That's what I've read. You really don't make much as an individual doing mining.
 

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And what's even funnier they also charge for the AV :poop:
 

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And what's even funnier they also charge for the AV :poop:
Yeah,... they charge to possibly use your system in ways you may not want them to.
 

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That is very underhanded of them. Installing somethiing and not being upfront about it.. good thing I just use defender
From what I understand , it does not automatically run, you have to make it run , I have Norton 360 and in order for me to run it I have to add crypto to my services. Doesn't automatically run , so you do have the choice ..... at least for now.
 

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Can't find anything on that, any link

From what I understand , it does not automatically run, you have to make it run , I have Norton 360 and in order for me to run it I have to add crypto to my services. Doesn't automatically run , so you do have the choice ..... at least for now.
No link but my brother was installing it last week and it came up on the splash screen, as above does he want to run it or not
 

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From what I understand , it does not automatically run, you have to make it run , I have Norton 360 and in order for me to run it I have to add crypto to my services. Doesn't automatically run , so you do have the choice ..... at least for now.
For now.. and as the video says you never know when they may change that.
 

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I should have checked Britec video as it's more in-depth.

 

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IMO, I wouldn't waste my pc's resources and electricity with it, you will never make enough to even make up for the wear and tear on your CPU, let alone pay for the electricity doing it. This is just a ploy by the AV companies to pull in cash because with Defender being just as good or better , paid AV is going the way of the DO DO Bird, they are losing $$$.
I know ..... I am using Norton 360 , only reason I am using it at the moment is I got it REAL cheap and it does not put a real big load on my system, so I figured I'd run it , used to run it years ago.
 

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I should have checked Britec video as it's more in-depth.

Probably included with the installers now, when I installed mine , the option was not even there, If I want it I have to download from Norton and add it , which I am not going to do.

Although I am certain before my subscription runs out I will probably get a UI update asking me to add it ... lol
 

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IMO, I wouldn't waste my pc's resources and electricity with it, you will never make enough to even make up for the wear and tear on your CPU, let alone pay for the electricity doing it. This is just a ploy by the AV companies to pull in cash because with Defender being just as good or better , paid AV is going the way of the DO DO Bird, they are losing $$$.
I know ..... I am using Norton 360 , only reason I am using it at the moment is I got it REAL cheap and it does not put a real big load on my system, so I figured I'd run it , used to run it years ago.
You really are tearing down your GPU rather than the CPU. Mining uses the graphic card to make use of the faster processor and memory. In either case it's a waste of time for the average person. IMO
 

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You really are tearing down your GPU rather than the CPU. Mining uses the graphic card to make use of the faster processor and memory. In either case it's a waste of time for the average person. IMO
My thoughts exactly, you'd need an army of GPU's mining to make anything and even if you did .... think of the power consumption ..... will you still make anything?
I've read stories about mining operations tapping into power grids to steal electricity to mine, so my thoughts are, even if you do it legally , you're still just gonna break even ... IF you're lucky.
 

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My thoughts exactly, you'd need an army of GPU's mining to make anything and even if you did .... think of the power consumption ..... will you still make anything?
I've read stories about mining operations tapping into power grids to steal electricity to mine, so my thoughts are, even if you do it legally , your still just gonna break even ... IF you're lucky.
So far from my understanding the miners are going to areas in say, the US, that have the lowest cost for electricity. One place is upstate NY and the other is TX. Given how they tax the power grid it could be catastrophic for some areas like rural areas in NY and given the power grid issues in TX that can be dangerous for the people there.

The only way I can see how you could make money is to have a farm with a massive number of GPU's and a source of power that cost you nothing.. say a solar one or even a watermill. The watermill could help augment the power requirements.

It just makes me mad when a big company does this.. they install things to a persons PC and really don't explain it to them. OH and on top of that it keeps running if you opt in.. even if your using your PC.
 

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I'm glad I'm using Microsoft Defender if this is the way things are going.

There are also sites and some apps that will mine behind your back, so... :(
 

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Norton Crypto Mining is turned off by default and cannot be enabled without your permission.

To DELETE it
Turn off tamper protection
delete file NCrypt.exe
Turn on tamper protection
Try this at your own risk, I tried it and it disabled smart firewall...may have been a coincidence

Even some routers and a lot of apps are doing it now I think the video has a bit of scare mongering in it
 
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Bitdefender is the same apparently


Bitdefender is not crypto mining, and doesn't have an option to enable crypto mining.
I've been using the paid version for 8 years. (Win 7, 10 and 11)

IF you find a link with proof... then by all means, post it. :)
 

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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3235 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724
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