Permanent disable of defender and update


Gregory

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So there is any easy way for permanent disable of defender(I have tamper protection off but still enabled by itselft).
Is there any permanent way to completely disable the windows 10/11 updates(Cause i try to disable it but this is not permanent)
 

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So there is any easy way for permanent disable of defender(I have tamper protection off but still enabled by itselft).
Is there any permanent way to completely disable the windows 10/11 updates(Cause i try to disable it but this is not permanent)


1. You shouldn't disable Defender unless you have a 3rd party AV/firewall to function in it's place.
2. With no AV/firewall running... you are.... DOOMED !!


3. IF you have a 3rd party AV/firewall running, it will "take over" the functions of Defender.


I do have a 3rd party AV/firewall running... and note the changes in Settings...


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IF... you totally disable Defender's AV/firewall, you will also break Windows.
Many have tried, all have failed. :(
 
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In this video, i will guide you on how to disable Windows Defender in Windows 11.

 

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Simple - install a 3rd party AV tool.

Of course, I assume you are not so dumb as to use no AV package?
 

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So there is any easy way for permanent disable of defender
Yes, just disable Defender's services. It is as easy as 1-2-3.
https://github.com/TairikuOokami/Windows/blob/main/Microsoft%20Defender%20Disable.bat

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These are some tools that I use especially in dev VMs for blocking things like defender and Windows update:






For example I use a lot of snapshots in VMs and don't want to want to wait on updates that I am going to blow away anyway on the next snapshot revert.
 

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Is there any permanent way to completely disable the windows 10/11 updates
Yes, set your network connections as "metered" and you'll get one tiny, boring, non-disruptive update a year. The others will wait for you to install them yourself [using WU or by downloading them directly from the MS update catalog].

There are tutorials for metered settings in both TenForums & ElevenForum.
It's actually the same procedure in both.
my latest metered connections ditty - post #24 - TenForums
Set Wireless Network Metered Connection - TenForumsTutorials
Set Ethernet Connection as Metered or Unmetered - TenForumsTutorials
Turn On or Off Metered Connection for Wi-Fi Network - ElevenForumTutorials
Turn On or Off Metered Connection for Ethernet Network - ElevenForumTutorials


Denis
 

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1. You shouldn't disable Defender unless you have a 3rd party AV/firewall to function in it's place.
2. With no AV/firewall running... you are.... DOOMED !!


3. IF you have a 3rd party AV/firewall running, it will "take over" the functions of Defender.


I do have a 3rd party AV/firewall running... and note the changes in Settings...


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IF... you totally disable Defender's AV/firewall, you will also break Windows.
Many have tried, all have failed. :(
If you don't have any other a/v and simply you don't want the defender always on but only when you want to be on or of for ever what you must do???
Again i have disable tha tamper but still defender it enabled itself.
 

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Isn't there any 3rd part program with simply buttons enable or disable Microsoft updates and defender when you want and stay like that(Enabled or disabled forever and not temporary).

If you set internet connection as mattered do you have any issues with browsers(Chrome, firefox, microsoft edge) or download programs(Internet download manager, jdownloader e.t.c.)?
 

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I'm using Bitdefender Total Security and have MS Defender disabled.

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If you set internet connection as mattered do you have any issues with browsers(Chrome, firefox, microsoft edge) or download programs(Internet download manager, jdownloader e.t.c.)?
No.
The only program I have come across with any problems is MSOffice Outlook.
- I gave up and there might be a solution nowadays.
- It refused to check mail automatically if the connection was metered. I had to tell it to check myself.


Denis
 

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Isn't there any 3rd part program with simply buttons enable or disable Microsoft updates and defender when you want and stay like that(Enabled or disabled forever and not temporary).

If you set internet connection as mattered do you have any issues with browsers(Chrome, firefox, microsoft edge) or download programs(Internet download manager, jdownloader e.t.c.)?
If you look at the tools at Simplify Your computer Usage that I posted you will find "single click" solutions.
 

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@Gregory

Perhaps another useful programme may be DefenderRemover[dot]exe - now at version 12.7.2 and findable on GitHub.

This utility has buttons to disable or remove Defender, then re-able or recover as you wish.

I've used it now on Win11 for several upgrades (both the exe and Win 11) without incident, choosing to disable rather than remove. I think the 12.7.2 version now on GitHub may be the last as the author says he has completed it. This has survived upgrades of Win11, reboots and recovery from image backups, at least so far.

I use Autoruns (just Google for it) to test whether or not Defender is actually disabled. Just use Search/Quick Find for Defender in Autoruns. The small list I get in Autoruns only shows Defender listed in the shellex.dll context but not active. Since disabling Defender, I have not found it interfering in any activity I've chosen to do ... so far.

The only aspect that I have found to be wary of is initial downloading and first execution, as any AV you may have running will likely delete it on sight. I'm using BitDefender (free version) plus FreeFirewall; BitDefender needs to be turned off for download and initial execution but after that does not interfere. I store the DefenderRemover exe file on a backup USB card and instruct BitDefender to not scan external discs or cards.
 

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So there is any easy way for permanent disable of defender(I have tamper protection off but still enabled by itselft).
Is there any permanent way to completely disable the windows 10/11 updates(Cause i try to disable it but this is not permanent)
Fond of suffering virus infections are you?
 

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So there i permanent way or not????
 

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So there i permanent way or not????
Post #7 explains one method of inhibiting WU.

You can disable Defender by installing a dummy program that acts as though it was an anti-malware utility.
Several such dummies exist.
The only link I saved is Sordum Defender Control


Denis
 

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I am in no way recommending that you do either one. In fact, I recommend that you do not. But here's my answer to your question.


 

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