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Yosemite

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Hello

an anyone support in a problem with "ProductAgent for Windows" showing in Other devices?
I am informed this is supposed to be for Bitdefender services but I do not have Bitdefender installed.
There was an instance of Bitdefender being installed several months ago, but since then I have reformatted and even installed a new NVMe device but this is still apparent in my Network, Other Devices.

How do I remove this "Other Device"

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Windows Build/Version
Windows 11 22H2

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    I7 8700 @ 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    gigabyte Z370M D3H
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X PHILLIPS 273V
    Hard Drives
    1gb NVMe
    PSU
    Silverstone SX500-G 500W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Internet Speed
    1gps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Sophos Endpoint
It appears that Bitdefender did not uninstall cleanly. You might try one of Bitdefender's uninstall tools. There is a different tool for each of their products.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Hello

As per my initial post, this is a new NVMe device and bitdefender has not been installed on it.
However I did try the uninstall tools on an old hard drive and contacted bitdefender support to no avail.
So I reformatted and still had the same issue, then I installed a new NVMe device and still have the issue.

How can this be?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    I7 8700 @ 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    gigabyte Z370M D3H
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X PHILLIPS 273V
    Hard Drives
    1gb NVMe
    PSU
    Silverstone SX500-G 500W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Internet Speed
    1gps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Sophos Endpoint
I think that somewhere in the registry there is an entry pointing the drive letter to bitdefender.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Thanks for the response

How is this possible from a clean install and a new NVMe device which has never seen bitdefender.
Does this mean microsoft add Bitdefender registry entries as standard?

I did a registry scan for bitdefender as a check and nothing is found.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    I7 8700 @ 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    gigabyte Z370M D3H
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X PHILLIPS 273V
    Hard Drives
    1gb NVMe
    PSU
    Silverstone SX500-G 500W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Internet Speed
    1gps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Sophos Endpoint
Read it on surfshark website:
Removing any antivirus traces: powershell in Admin mode:
Get-WmiObject -Namespace root\SecurityCenter2 -Class AntiVirusProduct | ForEach-Object{if($_.instanceGuid -ne “{D68DDC3A-831F-4fae-9E44-
DA132C1ACF46}“){$_.Delete()}}
Please try ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Assembled
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Z270 Taichi
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel 630 onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe, SSD and HDD
    Case
    Cooler Master
    Keyboard
    Asus wireless
    Mouse
    Asus Wireless
    Internet Speed
    75 Mbps
    Browser
    Chrome, Edge, Arc
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
You mention this is a clean install on a new disk that has never seen any Bitdefender install, so I would hazard a guess this 'device' is a software plugin likely coming from another package install, something installed along with motherboard drivers/ chipset maybe? Or a browser based plugin, online banking app etc? Or part of the software for a NAS?
Your computer information simply says Windows 11 Pro, not very helpful for anyone trying to help you beyond wild guesses.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes
Cineman195,
Thanks for the suggestion but this did nothing towards removing the "Other Device"
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    I7 8700 @ 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    gigabyte Z370M D3H
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X PHILLIPS 273V
    Hard Drives
    1gb NVMe
    PSU
    Silverstone SX500-G 500W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Internet Speed
    1gps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Sophos Endpoint
Shot in the dark, do you use Total Security?

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER Nitro AN16-41
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
    Motherboard
    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Hynix HFS001TEJ9X125N : 1024.2 GB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
How is this possible from a clean install and a new NVMe device which has never seen bitdefender.
I read this article. Maybe it's causes by something "phoning home". How to Remove a Device from your Bitdefender Central account

I'm gonna throw out a few things. May not help, but can't hurt.
Cleanup temp files
Make sure you don't have an entry in services for Bitdefender. If you do, disable it.
See if problem drive shows up in a clean boot state to eliminate it being a a software conflict issue. Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 11 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts Tutorial
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 +256gb ssd+512 gb usb m.2 sata
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Just to clarify,
There is no Bitdefender installed, there has never been any Bitdefender installed on this new NVMe device
This is a clean install on a new NVMe

However, I think I have come across the problem thanks to a tip from DigitalGoat.
You mention this is a clean install on a new disk that has never seen any Bitdefender install, so I would hazard a guess this 'device' is a software plugin likely coming from another package install, something installed along with motherboard drivers/ chipset maybe? Or a browser based plugin, online banking app etc? Or part of the software for a NAS?
Your computer information simply says Windows 11 Pro, not very helpful for anyone trying to help you beyond wild guesses.
This is coming from my Router which has Netgear Armor in the firmware which uses Bitdefender, but it is not enabled.
When I swap out the router for an Ubiquiti Edge router, the other device disappears. Darn it Netgear.

I think I will bin the router (RAX200) and buy something else that does not come with spyware.

Thanks for all your suggestions.
Consider this post closed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    I7 8700 @ 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    gigabyte Z370M D3H
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X PHILLIPS 273V
    Hard Drives
    1gb NVMe
    PSU
    Silverstone SX500-G 500W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Internet Speed
    1gps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Sophos Endpoint
Whoa, good catch @Yosemite. That's a pretty esoteric way to get a driver showing up in DevMgr. I'll have to remember that...
Thanks,
--Ed--
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC
Ed.

The crazy thing is that there is nothing in device manager. No drivers are installed. It's it the firmware that provides the driver.
Nothing anywhere on the system or in the registry.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    I7 8700 @ 3.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    gigabyte Z370M D3H
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X PHILLIPS 273V
    Hard Drives
    1gb NVMe
    PSU
    Silverstone SX500-G 500W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
    Keyboard
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Mouse
    Microsoft wireless 900 kit
    Internet Speed
    1gps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Sophos Endpoint
Ohhhhhh. Even better, or at least, more mysterious. Thanks for sharing.
=e=
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC

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