Waterfox Classic virtually unusable


Sam Tether

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Hello


Hopefully somebody can help me.


I've been using Waterfox Classic since coming from Pale Moon a few years ago and have been quite happy until recently.

It has been using around 2GB of memory (my laptop has 16GB) and the fan is always at top speed. The pages take long to load and for some reason a page I visit daily now makes Waterfox crash. There is nearly always a few seconds delay when typing until the typed text appears on screen. The cursor sometimes doesn't react. Even typing this has been a struggle.

I have tried turning off hardware acceleration but it makes no difference.

I have disabled add-ons (I only use three add-ons at the moment) but no change in performance.


I've stuck with Waterfox Classic because it was like Pale Moon which in turn was like the old Firefox. Do I really have to try another browser?


Thanks
 
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    Lenovo
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2592 Mhz, 6
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Berton

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I'd first power off completely, pull out the power cord and on a Notebook remove the battery if possible then after booting up do an error checking of the drive, could be there's other issues.

For other browsers I like SeaMonkey [includes an E-Mail Client] and Vivaldi. I like the cross-platform offerings that work on Windows, Linux and Macintosh which narrowed the choices but after losing my MacBook Pro the shopping field is wider.
 

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    Win11 Pro RTM x64
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    Dell Vostro 3400
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    Intel Core i5
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell Vostro 5890
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    Intel Core i5
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    8GB [16GB on order]
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    21"
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    512GB SSD NVMe
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    Firefox, Edge
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    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security

Sam Tether

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I'd first power off completely, pull out the power cord and on a Notebook remove the battery if possible then after booting up do an error checking of the drive, could be there's other issues.

For other browsers I like SeaMonkey [includes an E-Mail Client] and Vivaldi. I like the cross-platform offerings that work on Windows, Linux and Macintosh which narrowed the choices but after losing my MacBook Pro the shopping field is wider.
Hi

I just ran CHKDSK and everything was fine. I didn't expect to find a problem as it is a new laptop and the problem already existed on my old laptop.
Maybe something was transferred when I moved my Waterfox to the new laptop.

I have tried other browsers but find I have less control over them.
I have reduced my add-ons in Waterfox Classic to just three. The two important ones for me are Cookie AutoDelete and Adblock plus.
If another browser can allow me to add those on and be a lot more reliable than Waterfox Classic then I'll try it out.
 

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    Windows 11 version 21H2
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    Lenovo
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2592 Mhz, 6
    Motherboard
    LNVNB161216
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti

iko22

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I've stuck with Waterfox Classic because it was like Pale Moon which in turn was like the old Firefox. Do I really have to try another browser?
If you like this particular browser, I would keep checking for Updates or Join the Community Support Page on Reddit-com : Waterfox Community Support | Reddit . The latter is especially useful as you have a crash to report.
 

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Hopachi

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This might explain some if not most of the issues.
Waterfox Classic is outdated regarding security patches, read the official note about active bugs:
The browser has to be 'prepared' for the evolving web and the OS it runs on.
 
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    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
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    Laptop
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    TOSHIBA Tecra W50-A
    CPU
    Intel i7-4810MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA, Intel QM87 Express Chipset
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro K2100M - 2GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 840 250GB + Samsung SSD QVO 2TB
    PSU
    180W adapter
    Cooling
    The usual airflow + docked to station - PA5117E-1PRP
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
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    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    Custom Build
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    AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
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    MSI Mortar B350M
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @2666
    Graphics card(s)
    GYGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX580 8G
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Medion 27'
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 3D NAND SSD 250 GB NVMe + 4x HDD WD Blue 500GB 2.5'
    PSU
    Corsair Builder CX550M
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    Fractal Design Define Mini (Black)
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Mouse
    Good one, with cable / long tail
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    Lenovo SK-8825(L)
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Hopachi

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I've been using Waterfox Classic since coming from Pale Moon a few years ago and have been quite happy until recently.
First of all, you use what you like.

For the look and feel you can keep Classic around but you should further expect the encountered issues.

If this is your daily browser then it's recommended to use Pale Moon again since its security patching continues and the browser receives the needed updates.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Linux: Rocky / CentOS / Fedora 64-bit / Windows 10 Pro 64-bit VM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA Tecra W50-A
    CPU
    Intel i7-4810MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA, Intel QM87 Express Chipset
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro K2100M - 2GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 840 250GB + Samsung SSD QVO 2TB
    PSU
    180W adapter
    Cooling
    The usual airflow + docked to station - PA5117E-1PRP
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
    Motherboard
    MSI Mortar B350M
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @2666
    Graphics card(s)
    GYGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX580 8G
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Medion 27'
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 3D NAND SSD 250 GB NVMe + 4x HDD WD Blue 500GB 2.5'
    PSU
    Corsair Builder CX550M
    Case
    Fractal Design Define Mini (Black)
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Mouse
    Good one, with cable / long tail
    Keyboard
    Lenovo SK-8825(L)
    Internet Speed
    N/A
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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