Windows 11 suddenly stopped recognizing the Samsung S7 SSD 500GB when connected via the USB-C cable to the Thunderbolt port


swnw

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Firstly, as a newcomer to the forum, I would like to greet everyone and introduce myself. I am a longtime user of PC systems, both Windows and Linux. The computer assists me in pursuing my interests: music, photography, and astronomy.
My problem:
Windows 11 suddenly stopped recognizing the Samsung S7 SSD 500GB when connected via the USB-C cable to the Thunderbolt port on the Huawei MateBook Pro laptop. When the cable is connected before the system starts, Windows recognizes the S7 SSD after the system is loaded. Windows 10 Pro and Linux Ubuntu 23.10 - this same PC,Llinux is installed on external SSD, recognize the S7, using the same cable without any problems. Device Manager doesn't show any issues.

I did everything from these pages:


But problem remains unsolved.

On the other hand, there are no issues with the USB-C input; all connected drives are recognized in each of the situations described above.
 
Windows Build/Version
Edition Windows 11 Home Version 23H2 Installed on ‎25/‎08/‎2023 OS build 22631.2715 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22677.1000.0

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    HUAWEI MACH-WX9-PCB
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Sorry no one has answered your post. Welcome to the forum.
Those links have good information but they relate more to USB and USB drives.
IF the drive is detected using Linux on the same hardware, but not detected in 11, IMO it points to the thunderbolt controller driver in 11 being outdated or corrupted.

If you have HUAWEI PC Manager installed, let it update your drivers. If there is no thunderbolt controller driver update using its PC Manager. you will need to find the driver on HUAWEI site and download the driver applicable to your device. The thing is, HUAWEI is the worst site I have ever seen to find what you need, especially drivers.

If there is a newer driver than what you have, just installing the driver should fix any corruption. But if you have the most current driver I would delete thunderbolt controller in device manager AND check the box to delete the driver. Restart and install the driver again....if you can find it. You could also delete thunderbolt and it's driver, restart and see if Windows update will find a driver (but there's no guarantee it will)

Another thing you might try is a system restore if you have a restore point created before the problem began to occur. It would be worth a shot.
You can also restore a system image if you made one.
 

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Hi, @swnw, and welcome to the Windows Eleven Forum (aka 11F).

When the cable is connected before the system starts, Windows recognizes the S7 SSD after the system is loaded.

Therein lies the key. Has your UEFI been updated recently?

It sounds like the system is now assigning that as an internal drive instead of a removable drive, so if it is not present when powered on, the system assumed it has been removed.

Check Drive management and see if it is there but not assigned a drive letter (I doubt it).

Then, find the user manual for your machine and see if it has a detailed breakdown of the UEFI options in it. You'll be look for anything related to drives, check for settings related to USB and / or Thunderbolt.
 

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Hello!

I'm having exactly the same problem here, I have an Orico SSD enclosure in which I always used a Netac SSD, suddenly my laptop stopped recognizing this SSD when connected via the USB-C/Thunderbolt port...

For a few days now, whenever I disconnect the SSD I need to restart the laptop with the enclosure connected so that the SSD is recognized again...

I believe this started to happen after a Windows update, but I'm not sure...

My laptop is an HP Omen - DC1058wm.

I tried updating the BIOS to the latest version and it didn't help...

I've already tested 2 different models of Orico enclosures, 3 different cables and 3 SSDs from different brands, the same thing happens.

Any ideas on how to resolve it?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Omen
Try this: disconnect all USB devices, is the computer is a laptop disable or disconnect the battery, turn off the computer, disconnect the AC cable, press the power button for 1 minute or so.
 

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Try this: disconnect all USB devices, is the computer is a laptop disable or disconnect the battery, turn off the computer, disconnect the AC cable, press the power button for 1 minute or so.

Still the same...
I've already tried resetting the bios and even removing the battery from the motherboard.

I believe it is something related to drivers, I used this SSD this way for a long time, the problem started a few days ago...
 

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I believe it is somehow related to power delivery. Whether my case applies to any one else, I can't say. Also, I'm using a PC, not a laptop.

I have multiple external drives (all usb, various brands, some HDD and some SSD (no thunderbolt but same principal should apply)
I never had one lick of problems with external HDDs using their own power but was forever having to plug and unplug to get the SSDs to be recognized through wakes and restarts. Like you, the issue did not happen from cold boot. I took one of SSDs and put it into a powered dock. It worked like a charm. I then connected it to a powered USB hub. No more problems with any of my external SSDs staying recognized using the powered hub.

Note: This is only on my Windows 11 machine which has modern hardware. I could use these same drives in my older Windows 10 PC with no problem.
 

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    DELL 0J37VM
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    32 gb
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Hi, @swnw, and welcome to the Windows Eleven Forum (aka 11F).



Therein lies the key. Has your UEFI been updated recently?

It sounds like the system is now assigning that as an internal drive instead of a removable drive, so if it is not present when powered on, the system assumed it has been removed.

Check Drive management and see if it is there but not assigned a drive letter (I doubt it).

Then, find the user manual for your machine and see if it has a detailed breakdown of the UEFI options in it. You'll be look for anything related to drives, check for settings related to USB and / or Thunderbolt.
I believe the key is here, apparently windows is recognizing the SSD as an internal device, that's why it works after reboot, the big question is: why is this happening?

It's always worked perfectly, I haven't done anything different in the last few days, I haven't even installed drivers, so I'm thinking it's something related to the latest Windows 11 updates...
 

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  • OS
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    HP Omen
I thought the 2 ports were the same but turns out not so much.
 

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    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
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    256GB SSD NVMe
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I believe the key is here, apparently windows is recognizing the SSD as an internal device, that's why it works after reboot, the big question is: why is this happening?

It's always worked perfectly, I haven't done anything different in the last few days, I haven't even installed drivers, so I'm thinking it's something related to the latest Windows 11 updates...

I suspect a (relatively recent) Windows Update has changed something.

These forums are chock full of posts where something that has worked forever and one day all of a sudden, and recently, it stopped working like it always has. The trick is going to be figuring out which one might be at fault. Even I'm having an issue where my BT device search box never pops up, so I cannot pair any devices from inside Windows anymore.

I'm trying an in-place upgrade (repair) next, and if that does not work, I'm clean installing. I did a few things back in September to kinda force 23H2 onto my system, and at least one other person was able to fix their issue by reverting to 22H2 and waiting to be offered 23H2 (although he was able to find the specific update that cause his issue).

In your case, if you can narrow it down to a day or two, you'll have a good idea of which updates are possible. In my case, the last time I paired something via BT was early September, so I have tons of updates to peruse - and I refuse to waste that much time on something that I can fix with a repair / reset.
 

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@glasskuter,@johnlgalt,@Anibor_11

I did everything you told me - without a positive result.

believe the key is here, apparently windows is recognizing the SSD as an internal device, that's why it works after reboot, the big question is: why is this happening?
The question is bigger than big. I think that even Microsoft doesn't know answer, a lot of updates is simply tested by us.
and I refuse to waste that much time on something that I can fix with a repair / reset.
I have 3 copies of the disk made by EaseUS Todo Backup (highly recommend) at weekly intervals, but unfortunately, going back in time didn't help at all. A clean installation is not for me because I have several photographic, astronomical, and musical programs, the clean install and recovery of the settings and saved works would cost too much time. But if I have no choice, I will do it.

Then, find the user manual for your machine and see if it has a detailed breakdown of the UEFI options in it.
Huawei user manual is rather symbolic but Huawei PC Manager in my opinion is great but it says that everything in my laptop is OK.

So I try, taking easy now, but still working and so far I can't get no satisfaction. But when I find a solution, I will notify you immediately.

Regards, swnw
 

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    HUAWEI MACH-WX9-PCB
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    8 GB
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    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620
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    AudioDevice
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    JDI422A
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    3000x2000
Even I'm having an issue where my BT device search box never pops up, so I cannot pair any devices from inside Windows anymore.
I've seen that happen all of twice and it was because the Bluetooth were missing from Network Adapters and Bluetooth in Device Manager. Bluetooth is usually included with a Wireless Adapter. Reinstalling the drivers for Wireless Network adapter and Bluetooth fixed both.

Bluetooth and Wireless are more common on Notebooks but not so much on Desktops until the last few years. I have rehabbed an HP Desktop from 2019 that has them and I had an ASUS Business Desktop from 2015 that had it [an add-in PCIe card].
 

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    12GB
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    256GB SSD NVMe
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    Dell Vostro 5890
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    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
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Was not my problem at all. I have a dedicated thread on it where I went through all the different troubleshooting steps.

Only an in-place upgrade (repair) install fixed it.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
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    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
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    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
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    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
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    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth

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