Windows 23H2 MCTs available, including .ISO

fg2001gf11F · Nov 1, 2023

Wisewiz said:
I keep seeing this, but my experience contradicts it. I'm on a compliant 23H2 22631.2506 machine, logged in on my Local Account (Haven't used the MS account in ages), and Copilot is very much on and active on my machine, taskbar icon and all. I just woke it up and used it to ask this question and get this standard answer, and I am still not logged into my MS account.

It warns me that sometimes its answers are wrong. Yeah, well.

Pretty confusing, typical MS.
I have copilot that showed up on one machine with Local account, but at some time over a year ago that same machine was logging in with MS account.
On all other machines that had a Local account from the beginning I had to switch to MS account to get Copilot and then I reverted back to Local account and Copilot remained available.
There must be some entry that they save remembering if that user ever was with a MS account.

If I add a new user with local account, that user does not get Copilot till I switch it to a MS account.

Wisewiz · Nov 1, 2023

"I am not now, and have never been, a member of the MS Account Log-in Party." No, that's not right. I remember setting up a MS account a few years ago. Maybe that's what is stuck in their memory.

fg2001gf11F · Nov 1, 2023

Wisewiz said:
"I am not now, and have never been, a member of the MS Account Log-in Party." No, that's not right. I remember setting up a MS account a few years ago. Maybe that's what is stuck in their memory.

Yes, that is the same for one of my machines.

fg2001gf11F · Nov 1, 2023

Wisewiz said:
"I am not now, and have never been, a member of the MS Account Log-in Party." No, that's not right. I remember setting up a MS account a few years ago. Maybe that's what is stuck in their memory.

This one is interesting.

**[Copilot in Windows*]**

Starting with Build 23580 in the Dev Channel, users with local accounts will be able to access Copilot in Windows for a limited number of queries before needing to sign in.

Wisewiz · Nov 1, 2023

Source?
Both my machines (a compliant and a non-) are on 23H2 22631.2506, both are logged in on my Local Account, neither is in the Dev channel (or any Insider channel, for that matter), and both have all of the 23H2 features, including operating copies of Copilot that came with the package.

Maybe my machines' Moment features are just another of those famous MS mistakes (like letting non-Insiders get the full 23H2 package a few weeks ago if they did an in-place upgrade).

Bree · Nov 1, 2023

Wisewiz said:
I keep seeing this, but my experience contradicts it. I'm on a compliant 23H2 22631.2506 machine, logged in on my Local Account (Haven't used the MS account in ages), and Copilot is very much on and active on my machine, taskbar icon and all.

I have a Local account and have never signed into Windows with my MS account. Check your Settings > Accounts > Email & accounts. Having an MS account listed there that can be '...used by other apps' is sufficient for Copilot.

Wisewiz · Nov 1, 2023

I think my point is that MS is sending mixed signals on this, and confusing users. I used Copilot (see my post #59) to ask the question about needing to be logged in with a MS account to use Copilot, and its answer was "... you need to sign in with a Microsoft account on your PC to access Copilot in Windows." But I hadn't signed in and wasn't signed in, and in Settings, MS offered to sign me in, which wouldn't be the case if I were signed in.

Davidoo · Nov 1, 2023

I'm downloading the ISO to a thumb drive and each time, with different drives it gets to about 75% completed then says the disk is full and can't complete. I've tried 2 different 32GB drives with the same result. Have done this before at least 10 times over the years and never this issue. Any ideas?

fg2001gf11F · Nov 1, 2023

Davidoo said:
I'm downloading the ISO to a thumb drive and each time, with different drives it gets to about 75% completed then says the disk is full and can't complete. I've tried 2 different 32GB drives with the same result. Have done this before at least 10 times over the years and never this issue. Any ideas?

Use Diskpart and see how the 32GB drive is partitioned and formatted.

JAM83 · Nov 1, 2023

TairikuOkami said:
Ethernet, Cat8, but 11 randomly switches it from 1000 to 100, usually a clean install fixed it, not this time.

Wait, what? They have Cat8 Ethernet Cables now? I have Cat7. .

Davidoo · Nov 1, 2023

fg2001gf11F said:
Use Diskpart and see how the 32GB drive is partitioned and formatted.

I found that I had a 128GB drive, so used that, and it downloaded. Not sure why the 32GB drive didn't. It was formatted as FAT32.

Wisewiz · Nov 1, 2023

@JAM83

Bree · Nov 1, 2023

Davidoo said:
I found that I had a 128GB drive, so used that, and it downloaded. Not sure why the 32GB drive didn't. It was formatted as FAT32.

That's your reason, Fat32 has a 4GB maximum file size - and the ISO is 6GB. Reformat as exFAT or ntfs.

Davidoo · Nov 1, 2023

Bree said:
That's your reason, Fat32 has a 4GB maximum file size - and the ISO is 6GB. Reformat as exFAT or ntfs.

Yep, the other 128GB USB drive I had was already in NTFS. Got the ISO, replaced the appraiserres file and have 23H2 on my old laptop.

Wisewiz · Nov 1, 2023

@Davidoo

Keith Weisshar · Nov 2, 2023

I did a clean install of 23H2 from the new ISO from USB created with Rufus. Why hasn't Cortana and Mail and Calendar been removed from the new clean install image?

Davidoo · Nov 2, 2023

Keith Weisshar said:
I did a clean install of 23H2 from the new ISO from USB created with Rufus. Why hasn't Cortana and Mail and Calendar been removed from the new clean install image?

Yep, I still had Cortana as well (not the others). When looking at "installed apps" in Settings there was the option to uninstall, so I did.