Solved Laptop Battery life


incedis

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Greetings,
I have a MSI Delta 15 and the battery seems to be depleted after a year and a half.
How can I get a definite answer as far as my battery life expectancy.
I merely get 3h now. The MSI center tells me my battery is in a good health. My logic, if the original battery is in good health, I still should be getting 6 to 7 hours ?

Any help is much appreciated, and if not, have a beautiful 2024 !!
 

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  • OS
    win11 pro 21H2 22000.613
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Delta 15
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-15CK
    Memory
    64
Hi incedis,

You are lucky. I have a Lenovo (P72) and I can barely get passed on hour on its battery.

Happy New Year!

Kind regards,

tecknot

P.S. Sorry I could not be of any help.
 

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    Dual boot Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (b 19045.4291) & Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (b 22631.3447)
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    Laptop
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    Lenovo ThinkPad Workstation P72
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    Intel i7 8750H @ 2.2 GHz
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    Lenovo 01YU291
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    16 GB (all Samsung) DDR4-3200 SODIMM (non-ECC) PCIe 3
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Win + X open Terminal (admin) and copy paste the following command:

powercfg /batteryreport

Next go to C:\Users\incedis (or whatever username you use) and open battery-report.html (you can chose to open it in browser). Scroll down a bit and and check the Design Capacity (when the battery was new) and Full Charge Capacity (how it's currently doing while Fully charged).
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
Thanks for the reply. I guess if I am reading the html file correctly my battery is still in a good state.

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  • OS
    win11 pro 21H2 22000.613
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Delta 15
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-15CK
    Memory
    64
I have always heard that keeping a laptop connected all the time is not good for the battery. I guess, from the screenshot, its not a true statement ? The rig has been connected most of the time since day one. The battery seems to have kept most of its juice.
 

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  • OS
    win11 pro 21H2 22000.613
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Delta 15
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-15CK
    Memory
    64
Based on above - graph your battery has 20% less capacity now.

If charged at 100% all the time - it's sure to drain slowly. Same goes - if drain bellow 20%. Similar to smartphones - it can prolong its life (sustain a higher capacity longer) - if kept between 20% - 80%, where 40% - 60% is the most optimal value - but unpractical if used as a portable unit. MSI does have a feature in its app - to keep it charged at max 60% if plugged in most of the time:

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Also has a Battery Calibration feature (icon from left corner) - which in theory - should stabilize the max capacity (or at least - the max full charge capacity - should be displayed more accurately after running this tool). Basically, drains the battery to 0% only to recharge it shortly after.

If above values of -20% are still to high, you could give it a run. MSI recommends doing this every 3 months or so - but this too (using this tool) - can have a minor impact on lowering its capacity (you might loose around 02% every time you use it - more or less).
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 SP 16 (or Windows 11 SP 2 or Sun Valley 2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
If you can get 3 hours out of a battery, that is an achievement. None of my laptops will go more than about two and a bit, but then I run at high performance all the time at work. If I am going to be on a plane or something and I am just using Word or Excel, then I can set the lappy to run in battery saver mode and get mayyyybe 3 hours.

Neves is right, though. your battery is down 20% from when it was new. That may account for the lack of run time.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo with pretty LED lights
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
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    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
thanks for the reply. this is much appreciated. I am learning stuff and like it.
20 % drainage after 1 year and a half, seems acceptable to me. Will try to recalibrate the battery and see what goes.
@Catnip discrete amd graphic card is very good at preserving power
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win11 pro 21H2 22000.613
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Delta 15
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-15CK
    Memory
    64
My full charge capacity 3 years ago was 43,092 mWh. It's still 42,260 mWh right now so, I barely lost 2%. It has been connected most of the time since day one also (typically around 97%-98% charge). Basically, if you hardly ever use the battery and you also never stress it too much, then when it comes to the subject of accelerated battery aging in modern-day laptops the dominant factor by far is always the temperature.
 

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    11 Home
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    Asus TUF Gaming (2024)
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    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
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    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite Wifi
    Memory
    32 GB GSkill Trident Neo with pretty LED lights
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
There might be BIOS option to limit the charge level to 80% which can improve battery life
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self build
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    Core i7-13700K
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    Asus TUF Gaming Plus WiFi Z790
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    64 GB Kingston Fury Beast DDR5
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    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 Super Gaming OC 8G
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    Realtek S1200A
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    Viewsonic VP2770
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    2560 x 1440
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    Kingston KC3000 2TB NVME SSD & SATA HDDs & SSD
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    EVGA SuperNova G2 850W
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    Nanoxia Deep Silence 1
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    Noctua NH-D14
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Digital Media Pro
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    50 Mb / s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender
Thanks for the reply.
I guess a myth has been busted about the battery health when a laptop is connected most of the time. Thanks for clarifying.
Did not know about temp. Probably the main reason why I have lost 20%. When I did open up my rig to clean it, I found the fans covered in dust.
Thank you guys for your replies. This is much appreciated.
I wish you all a very beautiful 2024 😒
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win11 pro 21H2 22000.613
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI Delta 15
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
    Motherboard
    Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-15CK
    Memory
    64
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