Leak of upcoming features for Windows 11

jvickers · Feb 9, 2022

Josey Wales said:
How long will it take for a build to appear from the Fast to the Beta?

It seems like Fast is always getting updates, yet Beta might as well be Regular because the builds seem to be coming out at the same time.

Winuser · Feb 9, 2022

Dru2 said:
And adults should be more concerned with performance and usability than round corners.

The fact that there's all the noise concerning Windows having round corners is quite frankly.... nonsense. I've yet to find round corners hinder any part of Windows 11 performance or useability. None!!!

I'm glad Microsoft spruced up 11's looks. And those arguing "looks" is the only thing Windows 11 has are misguided. And I'm 63.

You just don't understand what we saying. It isn't so much the added fluff, it's the waste of time, money and effort that goes into stuff like that. Time, money and effort that would be better off used to make Windows 11 more useful. How many years has MS been trying to move everything from Control Panel? How many years have users asked for a tabbed File Explorer? Certain things now take extra mouse clicks to accomplice. The color theme only works on certain programs. As an example, when I'm using File Explorer not only do I not see the color I chose but sometimes I can't even see the icons on the top righthand side of it because it's all faded out. It's been that way for awhile now and I'm sure many others have the same problem. MS needs to put more effort into adding useful features and fixing known bugs.

Josey Wales · Feb 9, 2022

I think I will give it a go, I can always go back with MR. Got nothing else to do..

ThrashZone · Feb 9, 2022

Josey Wales said:
I think I will give it a go, I can always go back with MR. Got nothing else to do..

Game more

jvickers · Feb 9, 2022

Winuser said:
You just don't understand what we saying. It isn't so much the added fluff, it's the waste of time, money and effort that goes into stuff like that. Time, money and effort that would be better off used to make Windows 11 more useful. How many years has MS been trying to move everything from Control Panel? How many years have users asked for a tabbed File Explorer? Certain things now take extra mouse clicks to accomplice. The color theme only works on certain programs. As an example, when I'm using File Explorer not only do I not see the color I chose but sometimes I can't even see the icons on the top righthand side of it because it's all faded out. It's been that way for awhile now and I'm sure many others have the same problem. MS needs to put more effort into adding useful features and fixing known bugs.

All good points, and I couldn't agree more. In the meantime, they're trying to zero in on a market that also likes the aesthetic look. If an entire generation or two switches to Macs because the OS is prettier, Microsoft won't have to worry about finding bugs and making actual improvements to the product because people will all be on Macs. Microsoft will only have a tiny buyer base. Now, I realize that's an extreme situation, but it's not implausible.

Edwin · Feb 9, 2022

I actually don't mind round and bland...

... but I also love gorgeous...

... I actually don't mind a Big Mac...

... but I also love me a Kobe Strip Steak!!!

Josey Wales · Feb 9, 2022

Well I am in it and do not really see much difference from 22000.493.. Everything is centered better , the edge of the task bar now has a white line on top.

jvickers · Feb 9, 2022

Edwin said:
I actually don't mind round and bland...

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... but I also love gorgeous...

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... I actually don't mind a Big Mac...

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... but I also love me a Kobe Strip Steak!!!

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Great. Now I want either a Big Mac or Kobe Strip steak.

jvickers · Feb 9, 2022

jvickers said:
Great. Now I want either a Big Mac or Kobe Strip steak.

And yet, all I have is either vegan country-fried chicken or a peanut butter sandwich.

Edwin · Feb 9, 2022

jvickers said:
And yet, all I have is either vegan country-fried chicken or a peanut butter sandwich.

Nuthin wrong with that! Either way, it's good protein! :wink:

jvickers · Feb 9, 2022

Edwin said:
Nuthin wrong with that! Either way, it's good protein!

Yeah, but that Kobe Strip Steak looks mighty tasty!

Dru2 · Feb 9, 2022

Winuser said:
You just don't understand what we saying. It isn't so much the added fluff, it's the waste of time, money and effort that goes into stuff like that. Time, money and effort that would be better off used to make Windows 11 more useful. How many years has MS been trying to move everything from Control Panel? How many years have users asked for a tabbed File Explorer? Certain things now take extra mouse clicks to accomplice. The color theme only works on certain programs. As an example, when I'm using File Explorer not only do I not see the color I chose but sometimes I can't even see the icons on the top righthand side of it because it's all faded out. It's been that way for awhile now and I'm sure many others have the same problem. MS needs to put more effort into adding useful features and fixing known bugs.

While I get some of the concerns, I also feel some are just using "round corners" as another way to bash an OS they don't like or understand.

For me, I tend to focus on the things that matter - better security, improved performance, than opine about Microsoft adding "round corners" to apps and settings. Perhaps I understand Microsoft is also trying the make the OS look better. No harm there.

Lastly, anyone thinking Windows 11 should be perfect for every person on the planet, is really living in fantasy land as no OS has ever been perfect for every user in all cases. That's an impossible ask since we all have preferences.

Winuser · Feb 9, 2022

Dru2 said:
While I get some of the concerns, I also feel some are just using "round corners" as another way to bash an OS they don't like or understand.

For me, I tend to focus on the things that matter - better security, improved performance, than opine about Microsoft adding "round corners" to apps and settings. Perhaps I understand Microsoft is also trying the make the OS look better. No harm there.

Lastly, anyone thinking Windows 11 should be perfect for every person on the planet, is really living in fantasy land as no OS has ever been perfect for every user in all cases. That's an impossible ask since we all have preferences.

I never said I didn't like Windows 11. What I'm saying is that there are more important things MS should be concentrating on.

Dru2 · Feb 10, 2022

Winuser said:
I never said I didn't like Windows 11.

I was speaking in general :)

Winuser said:
What I'm saying is that there are more important things MS should be concentrating on.

My point is I don't see what's so wrong with doing both? It's not like the aesthetics team is working on security.

And if not "round corners" it'd be something else... every new OS coming in had its heavy dose of detractors before settling in.

But yes, I agree 11 isn't perfect. I like most here hate the new Taskbar

Bree · Feb 10, 2022

Dru2 said:
While I get some of the concerns, I also feel some are just using "round corners" as another way to bash an OS they don't like or understand.

Same as the square corners got a bad press when Win8 replaced Win7's round ones (though that OS was possibly more deserving of its 'bashing').

Dru2 said:
But yes, I agree 11 isn't perfect. I like most here hate the new Taskbar

For me, the most significant issue with the Taskbar is fixed by Dr. Mona Lisa.

Releases · HerMajestyDrMona/Windows11DragAndDropToTaskbarFix

"Windows 11 Drag & Drop to the Taskbar (Fix)" fixes the missing "Drag & Drop to the Taskbar" support in Windows 11. It works with the new Windows 11 taskbar and does not...

github.com

jvickers · Feb 10, 2022

Bree said:
Same as the square corners got a bad press when Win8 replaced Win7's round ones (though that OS was possibly more deserving of its 'bashing').

For me, the most significant issue with the Taskbar is fixed by Dr. Mona Lisa.

Releases · HerMajestyDrMona/Windows11DragAndDropToTaskbarFix

"Windows 11 Drag & Drop to the Taskbar (Fix)" fixes the missing "Drag & Drop to the Taskbar" support in Windows 11. It works with the new Windows 11 taskbar and does not...

github.com

I wonder if this would work with TranslucentTB. Only one way to find out!

Bree · Feb 10, 2022

jvickers said:
I wonder if this would work with TranslucentTB. Only one way to find out!

I'm not sure, it's the only 3rd-party add-on I use. From its Read Me I can't see any reason why not...

jvickers · Feb 10, 2022

Bree said:
I'm not sure, it's the only 3rd-party add-on I use. From its Read Me I can't see any reason why not...

It didn't work, though it was running in my systray. It didn't break anything, though. I quit TranslucentTB and it still didn't work. Not sure if I'm doing something incorrectly.

Bree · Feb 10, 2022

jvickers said:
I quit TranslucentTB and it still didn't work.

Maybe a restart is required after you quit TrancelucentTB?

jvickers · Feb 10, 2022

Bree said:
Maybe a restart is required after you quit TrancelucentTB?

I'll give it a shot later. I'm currently working on grading for the courses I teach and waiting for an early morning meeting. Thanks for the resource!