New One For Me At Least: The Shut-Down That Became a Restart


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Did the latest Cumulative Update + whatever else and I had already restarted twice. I then decided to shut down and after I clicked that, the PC went into restart.
Perhaps the system was miffed at me or something? There was no further update activity going on, so I'm guessing a simple malfunction.
They do happen now and again.
:cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 + 11 Pro x64 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware® ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme 3.49 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 x58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB Memory nVidia GTX690 Dual Core GPU
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung® XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080p
    Hard Drives
    2 X 500gb SATA
    1 X 1TB SATA
    1 X 3TB eSATA LaCie External
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® (Thermaltake ToughPower) 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling
    Cooling
    Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys Advanced (MX Keys S in USA)
    Mouse
    Logi MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    5G
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome and Firefox x64
    Antivirus
    WD + Malwarebytes Pro backup.
    Other Info
    Win 11 installed using a USB stick made using Rufus to bypass incompatibility issues.
I have noticed this happens if you click update and shut down funny enough
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell G15 5525
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    32 GB DDR5 4800mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 4GB Vram
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2TB Solidigm™ P41 Plus nvme
    Internet Speed
    800mbps down, 20 up
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ideapad flex 14API 2 in 1
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3500u
    Motherboard
    LENOVO LNVNB161216 (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
    Hard Drives
    256 GB Samsung ssd nvme
If the Microsoft update app at shutdown moment decides that there is need for another restart, it will force the computer to do so.
There's nothing you can do to avoid that (besides keeping the on/off button pressed).
That's why I have the working hours registered in the settings from 7:00 am until 1:00 am next day (which is the maximum).
And delay the updates to a moment that suits me, by having set the network as metered connection.
So that I always can decide myself when the update(s) should take place and when I do the necessary restarts.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3447
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Kingston NV2 - 500 GB
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 115.7.0 ESR
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Good idea. I have Group Policy set to allow downloads but always ask me to install.
Thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 + 11 Pro x64 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware® ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme 3.49 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 x58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB Memory nVidia GTX690 Dual Core GPU
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung® XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080p
    Hard Drives
    2 X 500gb SATA
    1 X 1TB SATA
    1 X 3TB eSATA LaCie External
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® (Thermaltake ToughPower) 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling
    Cooling
    Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys Advanced (MX Keys S in USA)
    Mouse
    Logi MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    5G
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome and Firefox x64
    Antivirus
    WD + Malwarebytes Pro backup.
    Other Info
    Win 11 installed using a USB stick made using Rufus to bypass incompatibility issues.
I seem to recall seeing that if I select update and shutdown it will complete my updates first which may require a restart and only then will it shutdown. In other words, there a restart as part of the update process, then a final shutdown. I'd have to test it again, but it makes sense to avoid wasting time finishing the update process the next time you start your system.

BTW, there is also clearly some different API or process used for a restart when applying Windows updates vs selecting to restart from the menu. I have an older MSI motherboard that will restart just fine every single time guaranteed EXCEPT when a Windows update reboots the system. If Windows update restarts the system, then every single time the system will fail to restart and boot to a UEFI command line.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Interesting, thanks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 + 11 Pro x64 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware® ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme 3.49 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 x58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB Memory nVidia GTX690 Dual Core GPU
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung® XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080p
    Hard Drives
    2 X 500gb SATA
    1 X 1TB SATA
    1 X 3TB eSATA LaCie External
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® (Thermaltake ToughPower) 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling
    Cooling
    Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys Advanced (MX Keys S in USA)
    Mouse
    Logi MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    5G
    Browser
    Edge, Chrome and Firefox x64
    Antivirus
    WD + Malwarebytes Pro backup.
    Other Info
    Win 11 installed using a USB stick made using Rufus to bypass incompatibility issues.
I actually do my updates at night. When the update has completed, I shutdown my computer. That has never been overridden for me. When I next restart the computer, it boots, finishes updating post boot and enters into Windows.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Full Tower
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

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